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# Unidentified Flags or Ensigns (2011) - Page 1

## Flags submitted in 2011 - 1 of 3 pages

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Below is a series of images of flags that have been provided to FOTW; some we have recognized, and some we have been unable to recognize. If you can help us identify any of these flags, please let us know! Contact the: UFE Editor.

Identification Key: = Positive ID (Positive Identification)
= Tentative ID (Tentative Identification)
= Some Speculation

### Unidentified Flags on this Page Bordered Union Jack, defaced, white escutcheon Unknown Utah Flags WWI Era German Diplomat Silk Flag Unknown Crowned Flying Swan Flags of the 1964 World's Faire Unknown Yemeni Military Flag Flag reading "US-6" Clipper Ship House flag (US/CSA) ### Unidentified Flags on Page 2 Flag on German Coat-of-Arms Alster Lake Promotion flag (FR) Unknown Car Flag - perhaps German Unknown house flag at Valletta Malta Another Luftwaffe Command Flag Royal Canadian Artillery Ensign (What´s the S?) Unknown Canadian (military?) flag 17th Century Dutch Flags Palestinian Flag (Fateh)? Iranian Intelligence UFE Flags carried by Toy Soldiers Indian military flags in Ladakh Three Unknown North American (?) Flags Revolutionary War Flag? Unknown Historical US Stick flag A Lot of Seven Flags Unknown United Kingdom Royal Standard Strange Arabian Movie Flag Unknown Flags from Dido - Tsezy (RU) | ### Unidentified Flags on Page 3 UFE with waves Ottoman Religious Flag Unknown Mexican flags Guyana UFE - Possible Presidential or Prime Minister's Flag Ocean Penny Postage Flags (GB) World War I Porcelain with Flags Mysterious Smithsonian Flag A harp in the South Two Unknown Flags Iranian UFE Mystery "Fort Washington" Burgee White Star Navigation Company UFE Four Unidentified Burgees Another Iranian UFE Unknown Nazi Banners seen in 1936 film ### Unidentified Flags on other pages Unidentified flags submitted in 2003 or earlier Unidentified flags submitted in 2003 Unidentified flags submitted in 2004 Unidentified flags submitted in 2005 Unidentified flags submitted in 2006 Unidentified flags submitted in 2007 Unidentified flags submitted in 2008 Unidentified flags submitted in 2009 Unidentified flags submitted in 2010 Unidentified flags submitted in 2012 Unidentified flags submitted in 2013 Unidentified flags submitted in 2014 Unidentified flags submitted in 2015 Unidentified flags submitted in 2016 Unidentified flags submitted in 2017 Unidentified flags submitted in 2018 Unidentified flags submitted in 2019 Unidentified flags submitted in 2020 Unidentified flags submitted in 2021 Unidentified flags submitted in 2022 Unidentified flags submitted in 2023 Unidentified flags submitted in 2024 Unidentified flags submitted in 2025 Unidentified flags submitted in 2026 Index of Unidentified Flags or Ensigns

## 11-11. Bordered Union Jack, defaced, white escutcheon

Some Speculation

Image from Glenn, 22 June 2010

[This was passed on to me by Peter Hans van den Muijzenberg , 27 February 2011, with the following information and comment. Apparently, I missed Al's original posting. - UFE Editor]

Attached is an inquiry I received along with my rather tentative answer. Any further enlightenment would be most welcome.
Question: "I have a large flag with the Union Jack in the center and light brown, red, and white bordering it. It also has UNION written across the middle of the Union Jack. I would appreciate any help identifying it. I am sure it is over 100 years old." - (Glenn)
Answer: "I see the picture clearly enough; thanks for posting it. It looks like a one-off design for some special occasion, though I have no idea what it might be. The blue, btw, also appears to be part of the design. Conceivably it could be a political banner from Ulster advocating continued union with the British Crown (as opposed to the Irish Republic), though that would make it less old than 100 years. I will post this to a list of flag people and report back if I learn anything more." - (Al)
Al Kirsch, 22 June, 2010

It does look like the blue is attached to it, but Glenn doesn't say it is, so maybe it's merely attached to it for strengthening. It's a pity that Glenn doesn't give the extra information that tells him it's more than 100 years old, as it might have given us a direction. The blue shield with "Union" looks awfully familiar, but I really can't recall why. Other than that, the Union Steamship Company does have a Union Jack with red border.
Peter Hans van den Muijzenberg, 26 February 2011

As far as this one is concerned, the Northern Ireland connection might be further supported if that "light brown" is actually faded orange.
James Dignan,5 March 2011

Having done a house flag day, yesterday, I must say it looks somewhat Glen Line-ish. But they had all the extra blue in a pennant flying over the flag, and it wasn't a shield for the other shipping house either, I believe, but a cross.
Peter Hans van den Muijzenberg, 5 March 2011

I can't tell from the photo - are there clear indications there is a hoist side with grommets or sleeve? If not the item sort of looks to me as if it might have been funeral pall for some Ulster Loyalist group. Just my subjective impression and speculation, fWIW.
Ned Smith, 6 March 2011

## 11-15. Two Unknown Utah Flags

Two Positive IDs and Some Speculation #15a #15b
Images from Esteban Rivera, 17 March 2011

On March 11, while doing research on the claim of a new Utah flag, I encountered these two historic UFEs from Utah. The first flag (#15a) was found in the Deseret News archieves. On the second picture (#15b), the flag which I cannot identify is the flag right next to the Utah flag. It has an olive green background, showing a part of a title "International..." and some initials "I.B..." The "I" could stand for "International," but cannot see the rest. This picture accompanied this article "Utah's first state flag finally found." The caption on the photograph reads: "Ron Fox searches for Utah's first state flag last August. Fox's search ended six months later, when a Utah State Historical Society Museum staff member uncovered it (Barton Glasser, Deseret News archives). Any help is greatly appreciated.
Esteban Rivera, 17 March 2011

#15c #15d
Images from John Hartvigsen, 7-10 May 2012

The flags shown in #15b are the recently rediscovered 1903 Utah State flag found in the Utah State Historical Society Museum collection and the other flag is an International Brotherhood of Bookbinders Union (IBB) Local 151 banner. I had little interest in the second artifact since it is a union banner and not what I would consider to be a true flag. However, here is an additional picture of the group of us examining the flags (#15c) and the information I have on the IBofB Union banner. I also include a better picture of the Union Banner. (#15d)
The now retired former director (Phil Notoriani) of the Utah State Historical Society purchased this banner with a group of other union banners in 1989. It is displayed from a cross bar, is in the gonfalon shape, and is a union parade banner. The International Brotherhood of Bookbinders (IBB) initials appear on the flag. As you can see from the photo, it was Local 151 organized Aug 3, 04.
I think Ron Fox planed to emailed you about the other flag (#15a), and said he would email Ephraim Dickson at the Fort Douglas Museum to see if he could identify the flag, which is in that museum's collection. I also emailed Ephraim, so hopefully he can add some information on that flag.
John M. Hartvigsen, 7-10 May 2012

I share a bit more about the "rediscovery" of the 1903 Utah State flag. It had been in the collection of the Utah State Archives, but was transferred to the Utah State Historical Society (USHS) in a box. After Ron Fox asked that the USHS to make a search for the flag, the box was opened and the flag was rediscovered after being lost for decades. I had asked both the Archives and the USHS if they knew of the flags whereabouts. Each assured me that they did not have the flag and did not know of its whereabouts. Although a black and white photograph of the 1903 flag had appeared in various publications, the actual flag was last seen pictured in a newspaper photograph when the then Governor of Utah Charles R. Maybey took the flag with him to Portland, Oregon on July 22, 1922, where it was flown from the masthead of the City Rose. When I began looking for the flag in the 1980s, its whereabouts were unknown. When I discussed the story with Ron Fox in 2010, he felt is was worth trying again to find the artifact. At Rox's urging, the staff of the USHS looked one more time and found the flag.
The unofficial 1903 flag is in the collection of the USHS and would be appropriate to call the 1903 flag the unofficial 1903 flag [adopted on April 8, 1911]. The picture #15c is not "an additional picture of the group," but the un-cropped picture shown in #15b.
John M. Hartvigsen, 12 May 2012

## 11-16. WWI Era German Diplomat Silk Flag

Positive ID

Image from William Garrison, 14 March 2011

Saw this on e-Bay, with this description: "I have been told this is a German diplomat flag from the Weimar era. I'm NOT sure. The flag is very fragile and made of silk. It has some longitudinal tears. It measure about 8"x12'"
William Garrison, 14 March 2011

Considering the time period in Germany, a curious combination, the use of those six pointed stars. Also, notice its not a Weimar flag, but Imperial Flag in the canton. The brief use of the Imperial Flag again between 1932-35 is even less likely time period for six-pointed stars.
Pete Loeser, 18 March 2011

Those are heraldic six-pointed stars, or "mullets," rather than Magan Davids which are generally composed of two interlaced triangles. The thing is that an Imperial tricolour on a Weimar Republic official flag seems a hint unlikely, but (whatever this flag actually is) I do know that the black, red, yellow versus black, white and red debate went on for several years, so a date sometime between 1919 and 1935 is not unreasonable.
Christopher Southworth, 15 March 2011

I don't believe that it is a governmental flag, looks like the flag of a sailing or rowing club. If it would be the latter, the club surely is dissolved.
Klaus-Michael Schneider, 15 March 2011

If this is only something like 20x30cm, what type of flag was this?
Peter Hans van den Muijzenberg, 7 April 2011

(evidence)
Images from Klaus-Michael Schneider, 7 June 2014

It is the flag of the Dresdner Ruder-Verein, a German Rowing Club. In the canton is the German tricolour black over white over red. In the lower fly end are three dark blue mullets ordered 1:2. The club had been dissolved after World War II, but has been re-established after German reunification with a new flag. The canton was replaced by a canton in city colours (black-yellow), the stars were rreordered (sinister bendy) and rotated (90 ° clockwise) and a fourth star was added.
Source: Der Rudersport (weekly); II/50/10 December 1913.
Klaus-Michael Schneider, 7 June 2014

Images from Peter Hans van den Muijzenberg, 8 June 2014
[Dresden Rowing Club more like William reported it.]

You'd wonder whether they changed their flag as the national flag changed. This document on eBay, with again the stars placed somewhat differently, shows the same canton for 1932. Of course, if this is from the period Pete mentioned, when the flag was in use again, that would not tells us what happened in the mean time.
Peter Hans van den Muijzenberg, 8 June 2014

## 11-17. Unknown Crowned Flying Swan

Some Speculation Image from Sam Neumann, 20 March 2011

Can you ID this flag at all?
Sam Neumann,

For what it's worth, it seems Scandinavian to me, but I may be influenced by the use of the swan on the Nordic Council flag.
Rob Raeside, 20 March 2011

## 11-18. Flags of the 1964 World's Faire

Some Speculation

#18a #18b [Click on images to enlarge]
Images from Esteban Rivera, 17 March 2011

[These two pictures were taken at the World's Fair in 1964-1965. They were sent to the list by Esteban Rivera (7 July 2010), but overlooked. The first (#18a) is taken at the main entrance ramp to the Fair. The second (#18b) is taken at the Ford Rotunda outside the American car maker's pavilion at Ford Bridge. On the right picture (#18b), one can see the Fair's flag, but the rest of the waving flags are unknown. - UFE Editor]

These seem to be pictures of all the same type of flags with some photographic colouring and developing differences. Considering that they're all very simple shapes and easy to remember, I seriously doubt that they actually have any meaning at all. They might just be decorate and local colour.
Peter Hans van den Muijzenberg, 11 March 2011

I second that. Blue and orange are the New York city colors; I suspect these were just intended as decorative displays of those colors.
Joe McMillan, 23 March 2011

## 11-20. Flag reading "US-6"

Tentative ID Speculative Image by Pete Loeser, 24 March 2011

I received the following: "I purchased a flag at an auction and I am having trouble identifying it. It is approx 19"x19" (48 cm) and looks to be made of canvas. It is dark blue with an 1 1/4" white hem on the top and bottom. There are four brass grommets, one in each corner. Sewn on it, in a cotton like material, it has US-6. The US- is white and the 6 is in red. the letters are approx. 4" wide by 13" tall. I can see no other markings and I don't know if its two-sided as its in an old frame that must be dismantled to remove the flag. The auctioneer said it came from an estate with a lot of WWII items and they thought it was from the Coast Guard."
Albert S. Kirsch 20 March 2011

I have no idea, but if it has a grommet in each corner it can't very well be a flag. (Letters more than 3 times as tall as they are wide sounds very, very weird.)
Joe McMillan, 21 March 2011

As has been observed by others, with the grommets in each corner this is not a flag. However, what it might be is a Beach Marker, used by Beachmasters to direct landing craft bearing troops and supplies. This was one of the jobs in which US Coast Guard did participate in some of the numerous amphibious landings during WWII, Korea, Vietnam & elsewhere. I've not really looked into this, and have never examined a surviving original Beach Marker; but I've read about them, always assuming they were either plain colored flags or flags from the ICS, but this might be a special purpose Beach Marker. Just a thought, but Beach Markers are flag-like-objects.
Jim Ferrigan, 23 March 2011

Photograph from U.S. National Archives
[Click to enlarge]

See this picture with a Beach Marker. Not the same, but indeed similar enough that it might be possible.
Peter Hans van den Muijzenberg, 23 March 2011

I was thinking something similar myself. This would also explain why the letters are tall and thin, as they would need to be seen from a low angle at a distance.
James Dignan, 23 March 2011

I attach a speculative image, not to scale, (hopefully one of you can provide a better one, including the eyelets), but I think you have nailed it. There were a lot of beachheads in both Europe and the South Pacific during World War II, Korea, etc.
Pete Loeser, 24 March 2011

## 11-22. Clipper Ship House flag (US/CSA)

Some Speculation Image provided by Earl Sheck, modified by Rob Raeside, 3 April 2011

I recently purchased this painting and I'm trying to identify the ship. The painting was one of three; the others being the CSS Florida, and the Brig Dorothy. They all came out of the same estate and probably date to the U.S. Civil War Period. Can you identify the house flag? Thanks in advance for any assistance you might provide.
Earl Sheck, 3 April 2011

It is not one of the 750 US shipping lines flags we have on our site. It is in fact quite unlike shipping lines flags in general, and my suspicion is that this is an artist's rendering, and not a true flag.
Rob Raeside, 3 March 2011

We could speculate that, for having a white star on a blue field, this is a war pennant.
Peter Hans van den Muijzenberg, 30 April 2011

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